Interview with Chloé Valdary and founder of the Theory of Enchantment

Are socioracial dynamics reducible to two categories: The oppressor and the oppressed? Some argue that this reduction fails to recognize the depth of the complexity within each person.

However, Chloé Valdary, founder of the Theory of Enchantment, believes that both the oppressor and the oppressed are suffering – and resentment and vengeance only cause more suffering. This week, she joins host Debi Ghate to share the ideas behind her antiracism program The Theory of Enchantment – and how, through teaching a person to show love and compassion to themselves, owning even the parts of themselves they don’t like, they can begin to show that same love and compassion to others.